I am just wondering what many fans would be saying today if Liverpool lost on Wednesday night against Stoke in the Carling Cup courtesy of the opening goal by Jones which was the result of Sebastian Coates error? When Stoke scored, I was already getting slating SMS’s, emails, BBM’s and tweets from fans complaing about Coates’ error and that he is not good enough. One tweet said, “How much did we pay for him again?” The answer is reportedly £7million and I will write here today and defend Coates despite his error.
We may quickly forget about Coates’ error simply because we went on to win the game but you can imagine the pressure that would have been on him if Liverpool lost ‘because of Coates’.
Fans must understand that Coates is still very young at only 21-years-old. He has just moved to a new country and we all know how hard South American’s find it to settle into the Premier League. He was up against one of, if not the most physical team in the Premier League which is Stoke. Besides his error which led to the Stoke goal, Coates had a very good game for Liverpool in my opinion. He tackled well when he had to and distribute the ball from the back without many problems. We must also not forget that he had to play with two different centre-back partners last night; Carragher in the first half and Skrtel in the second, which is not an easy task.
With the prices being banded around today for centre-backs, £19million for Gary Cahill for example, the £7million Liverpool spent on Coates is an excellent bit of business in my opinion. Coates can only get better from here on out as he continues to get used to his new team mates and getting used to the Premier League. He easily has all the attributes to do well and as funny as it may sound, I think his error last night is good for him in the long term as he will learn from it and know that when in doubt, kick the ball into row Z!
did you write this because you could not think of anything to write about? one mistake thats it in a game of 90 mins with 2 different partners in cb and a cb playing at lb.
love u to death. was beginning to wonder if dis is a football fan site or comedy zone.
listen if you r all watching football for the last 10 seasons or more,how the fuck has jamie carragher last this long in a Liverpool Team..,he gives away penaltys and makes serveral mistakes in every few games and scores og’S….Liverpool lose 12 to 15pts a season because of him..WE COULD HAVE HAD A FEW MORE CLEAN SHEETS THIS SEASON BECAUSE OF HIM, HE MADE STUPID MISTAKES NEAR THE END OF THE GAMES!!Dont get me wrong he got great heart and pride in a Liverpool shirt but just not good enough to start for Liverpool any more,,By the way Sami Hyypia made Carragher not the other way round and we have yet to replace Hyypia!!Coates made mistake for Goal tonight but he is young give him a little more time and by the way he played pretty well back…
carra is a quality player a liverpool legend who has played on with injuries that most players would of gone of for and still put in his famous tackles that have won us trophies. call yourself a liverpool fan you are a disgrace
There will always be cretins who criticise new players on what is just about the first time they take to the field in earnest with us. You are right Coates did very well overall. I do not think he will EVER make such a mistake in his time with us.I think he has learned a good lesson but still cretins will come out of the woodwork!
v good player for 7 mil, every player makes a mistake the odd time,he just got on with the game and played very well overall considering he didnt play too much so far ..
Andy & Hendo are both 21 yrs old like Coates, but no one would forget a similar error if did by one of them. I think too that all Our Young players must get a proper support, as You jump to defence of players that You like.
The also cost £35m and £20m respectively so i think the fans have a right to not forget a similar error. They both were established young premier league footballers, whereas Coates was playing in uruguay. Different country, culture and must have been a slap to the face with regards to the physicality of stoke players!
He did very well, made one mistake but read the play very well.
Reina made a mistake not getting to the ball against Norwich for their goal but has anyone mentioned him in any posts………
Price tag is different but football is the same game for everyone, with the same difficulties for everyone.
Some People think that football is like football manager pro: IF YOU HAVE A HUGE PRICE TAG, YOU MUST SCORE AND MAKE AN ASSIST EVERY GAME.
Football is not so simple as that.
Price tag is not fielded in the ground. Price tag doesn’t make a difference in the ground. Price tag doesn’t make the things easier for anyone. And in particulur, irregarding to the price tag, every young player DESERVES LOVE AND SUPPORT. And in addition, Hendo & Carroll needs MORE SUPPORT THAN COATES, because They are two young guys as well as Coates, but with an higher price-tag and huge expectations to match as things are more & more harder for a young player Who must face every day the pressure of price tag and expectations.
In conclusion, both Carroll and Hendo needs more support than anyone, considering price tag, expectations and pressure to be istant successfull.
In one word, They need support, and LOVE, some love.
This is the fact, some love…
Carroll is not playing so bad but He’s a striker with the constant need of score so I can comprend some critics, but Hendo, Hendo is victin of deliberated and much maligned attacks for some fans (especially from abroad) because He’s faulth of replacing the money-grabber Meireles: Hendo s obviously producing some moments of good football and playing well.
Hendo’s assist for Suarez winner score was a superb pice of business: a superb volley-pass. I can still wait wait to see these superb piece of play by Meireles, or Kuyt….
What a load of tosh. You contradicted yourself by first saying that the price tag of Carroll and Hendo didn’t make a difference because they are still young players, then went on to say because they are cost so much they deserve more love than Coates. They deserve the same amount of love as ALL of our players. Do we remember a certain player from Brazil by the name of Lucas Leiva? A few seasons ago he came to Liverpool from Gremio in the Brazilian league and came not only as an attacking box-to-box midfielder in the same vein as Stevie, but also came on the back of winning the Golden Boot, the youngest ever winner of the award, that has also been won by Ronaldinho, Kaka, Ronaldo, Tevez, among others, so we knew the kid could play. Then when he came to Liverpool, he had to change position as we had the best midfielder in the world already playing in that position, so he had to adapt to be successful, as all successful players do. He got a lot of disrespect from a group of fans, and some media said he wasn’t the “Brazilian” type of footballer so he was a bad player. However in recent seasons, he has turned not only into a holding midfielder, but the best holding midfielder in the Premier League and one of the best in the world, consistently performing at a very high level. He has leadership skills, shown by being third in the pecking order for captaincy of Liverpool, as well as having been captain of the Brazil U-21 side. He is a regular in the Brazilian side now, and probably the first name on our team sheet. A lot of people say we are a two-man team, referring to Suarez and Gerrard, but it was shown against Norwich how much we miss Lucas. Lucas is a case in point how a young player, from a new league who made mistakes has grown to become a highly important player for us. So people should get off Coates’ back, give him support and maybe he will become as important as Lucas
Take you negativity and F**k Off
Andy and hendo are overrated players whose combined worth really shouldn’t be more than 18 mil instead of 55mil. Coates was young player of the tournament at the south american championships and cost 7 mil! There’s a good reason why the top european clubs aren’t keen on english players. The 55 mil wasted on these two would have been better spent on adam johnson, moussa sissoko, marvin martin, edinson cavani. A combination of these players for 55 mil makes for a stronger squad than what we have. I don’t know what dalglish is trying to prove but i know it won’t give the best value for money. The simple truth is with 120 mil spent, our situation is unacceptable! I accept the fact that we need more british players to meet the quota but why but henderson when u’ve got spearing and shelvey? Why not use the money on someone else?
@MIKE.I said this before that …*buy overated and overpriced british players, at your peril*!. This is 2011 KD not the 80’s were there was hardly any foreigners.
You only have to looka at the England squad, which supposedly contains the best of britain, and look how well they’re doing!.I regret to say that, british players are NOT tacticly aware as foreign players, who would you choose….Suarez, Aguero,David Silva or Carroll, adams, Henderson???. nough said.
adam and hendo cant be compared to the other forwards that you list. hendo and adam pack our midfield with class, and whilst im huge fans of spearo and shelvey, i think shelvey has brilliant vision but is still raw.spearo has his role.shelvey will be back. bottomm line, i think hendo is a great buy for now and will go on to prove that. Same for Caroll, when he gets his firing boots on he will also prove the doubters wrong. he is a confidence player and needs the fans behind him. show some faith dude, its early days yet, players need to gel, we have one of the best pre and post xmas runs for yrs. YNWA
Fantastic. Spot On.
Unless you are unaware, there is a ruling coming into effect within the next season or two where you have to have a certain number of home-grown talent. So we need these “over-priced and over-rated British players” are necessary
Adam Johnson is english…..
So You define overrated a player after nine games…
It is kinda harsh to point fingers at one player only. Fans nowadays expect a perfect player which are kind hard to find even if they exist. One mistake and then they are condemn as useless or not good enough. Instead of getting behind them and giving them support, they are quick to judge base on a mistake.
With email, SMS, twitter, facebook, pingchat, messenger etc etc.
We have many ways to express opinion! The problem is that opinions on players havent changed just we now havew the meands to broadcast opinion to a wider audience.
Rather than joining in with these tendancies, try to ignore than.
Well said. Couldn’t have put it any better.
Never play him again I say.
Every time a player makes an error he should be sold and never play again.
feels like that how some SUPORTers think. the big clue is look at the word in capital letters. simplz. YNWA
Yeah, he is a young ad who will get better as he gets to know the league better. Look at Johson who has been a liability at rightback from day one. Can’t remember any match where he had not made a mistake. Came back against Norwich and got in the way of Cara and Pepe for their equaliser. Moreover Coates was covering Agger who was lost somewhere.
“Tony” (if thats your real name), get a life ya prick. Coates will prove to great signing for £7 million
Did you actually read the article “Pete” (if that’s your real name)? Tony was not lambasting (which means to thrash or scold) Coates, in fact, if you had taken the time to read the article and not just the heading, you would have realised that he was in fact giving his opinion which is that we shouldn’t judge a player on one mistake, that despite that one mistake, he had an excellent game and that making the mistake is good for his development, because he will learn from it. Think before opening your gob
He actually did well against the harassing
Stoke players. I think he will be good give him time
put simply hes not gonna get better unless he gets game time
Charager looked as bad as Coates did when Stoke scored their goal. he never went for the ball, but hoped Jones would miss.
Exactly. There was still time to clear the ball, but jones scored BETWEEN two defenders,(who were asleep ) did he not?. So why the F put all the blame on Coates?.
Some of the LFC fans are quick to point out the mistakes of players. WHY DON’T THE CRITICS GO OUT AND PLAY THEMSELVES OR, JOIN ANOTHER EPL CLUB ??? OR BE ONE OF THE EPL MANAGERS ??? I BET YOU’LL BE FIRED EVEN BEFORE YOU ARE HIRED.We are of the opinion that QUOATES DID EXTREMELY WELL AND THAT’S THAT !!!!
Coates will soon adapt to Englsh football and poised to be a great centreback in the mould of Sami Hyypia.
Not one game or one mistake in a cup match would color someone’s carrier in LFC, especially not for a young player playing his first games in England having come from a totally different style of football and a weaker league, not to forget that.
Couple of seasons ago LFC playing EL semis was not considered to be a huge thing as it wasn’t CL, but now mistake against Stoke is unforgivable error, maybe because fans have lost faith in the club to be able to turn things around any more and the fact that we are starting to consider CL something like PL title was few years ago, an elusive holly grail.
LFC has sunk really low, because of internal affairs of the club but also because others have evolved while Liverpool regressed.
If you would open Goal.com front page 3 years ago there would be no mention of City or Tottenham and LFC news would be on pair with Man.Utd’s, Arsenal’s and Chelsea’s.
Today no one really cares if LFC wins against Stoke or not, in fact if Liverpool wins a cup this year it would be a surprise to fans and neutrals alike.
What the F you’re on about?
??? I think it’s pretty clear what I’ve said.
is true that coates made a single mistake in that game, but he was solid at the centerback covering cara’ for 43min befor that erro, sorry to say this, i put the blaim on cara’ what was he thinkin’? One on one with jones yet he couldn’t fight out the ball, even spearing will fight for that ball, permit me to say it cara hav finished!!!
one thing i no is dat in future coates will get better, he’s a talented young player wit time he wil come good, buh in my own opinion carragher maid d damaged he did’nt even challenge jones he only hope he wil miss d goal which is 2 bad.
crap article, melodramatic nonsense, idiots writing to the editor peeing in their pants because he made a mistake. If players can’t make mistakes they end up like robots and play football with a huff mentality, losing the ball without getting the blame syndrome…the achilles heel of english football, and part of the reason england won’t win the world cup for a very long time.
I THINK COATES NEEDS TIME TO SETTLE,DON’T FORGET HE’S IN A NEW COUNTRY,A NEW TEAM AND IN THE PREMIER WHICH IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD.THE LAD NEEDS TIME TO SETTLE HIMSELF IN,I’M SURE HE’LL TURN OUT TO BE A TOP PLAYER FOR LIVERPOOL.GOOD LUCK TO THE LAD.
Very good signing one for the future Coates should get more game time I hope we didn’t sign him to sit on the bench YNWA 4 life !!!!!
Price tag is different but football is the same game for everyone, with the same difficulties for everyone.
Some People think that football is like football manager pro: IF YOU HAVE A HUGE PRICE TAG, YOU MUST SCORE AND MAKE AN ASSIST EVERY GAME.
Football is not so simple as that.
Price tag is not fielded in the ground. Price tag doesn’t make a difference in the ground. Price tag doesn’t make the things easier for anyone. And in particulur, irregarding to the price tag, every young player DESERVES LOVE AND SUPPORT. And in addition, Hendo & Carroll needs MORE SUPPORT THAN COATES, because They are two young guys as well as Coates, but with an higher price-tag and huge expectations to match as things are more & more harder for a young player Who must face every day the pressure of price tag and expectations.
In conclusion, both Carroll and Hendo needs more support than anyone, considering price tag, expectations and pressure to be istant successfull.
In one word, They need support, and LOVE, some love.
This is the fact, some love…
Carroll is not playing so bad but He’s a striker with the constant need of score so I can comprend some critics, but Hendo, Hendo is victin of deliberated and much maligned attacks for some fans (especially from abroad) because He’s faulth of replacing the money-grabber Meireles: Hendo s obviously producing some moments of good football and playing well.
Hendo’s assist for Suarez winner score was a superb pice of business: a superb volley-pass. I can still wait wait to see these superb piece of play by Meireles, or Kuyt….
This article is very very rubish
@tuban at least he had an idea… you are the rubbish.
‘bandied’ about, you pleb!
I remember Alan Hansen making a similar mistake against West Ham in the League Cup back in the early 80’s. He didn’t end up doing too bad for the club did he?
Just because someone comes on here and says they’re a Liverpool supporter doesn’t mean it’s so.
Give the lad a chance! He is only 20, from a completely different part of the world and it was only his 2nd or 3rd game. Other than that error he did a decent job. Remember when vidic first signed for united….he was pretty average for the first few games….now look at him! One of the top defenders in the league!
You guys are talking about $7 mil, $20 mil or $35 mil of the price of those young player. But no one has mention about the ZERO PRICE of such a quality young player like Martin Kelly, Flanagan, Robinson, Raheem Sterling, Coady and a few more. Jonjo Shelvey who was brought in with the little price is obviously the potential of Stevie G replacement and formed better than Hendo but yet was out for loan. Its a matter of with Dalglish’s ego who doesn’t want other legacy remain in his squad. Somebody has to convince JW Henry about this,
Fantastic post mate. Good point.
kenny is not bothered about his legacy. even if he was i doubt very much that a current player is going to win the league as player/player coach/manager go away for decades then come back as manager. jonjo has gone to get game time something that kenny could not promise him yet.
Mistakes made by defenders are usually fatal coz it always leads to a goal, so its bound to be costly whichever way you look at. After the defenders there is nothing else part the goalkeeper. As for strikers, errors after errors will not matter just as long they score one or two and everything else is forgotten. Its plain for all to see why Coates’s error stood out for the whole world to see.
There are established players who make mistakes, so it’s not the end of the world if new player comes in and makes a mistake, providing his general play is of Our high standards.
In the case of Coates, he’s clearly a Good player from what iv seen of him with Uruguay and the little he’s played for us. You can see he’s alittle tentative at the moment when he is on the ball, because he kept trying to back to Pepe when his natural game is to pump the ball up the pitch.. But I would say that’s normal for any player before he settles in. I mean I’m still waiting for Carrol to settle even now :/
With time and opportunity he will prove be a class player and a snip at £7m 🙂
Coates is our future cb. I don’t think he will play the bounce again. He wanted to play the ball at his feet and keep possession, but he knew right after that he had made a mistake. I think he learned from that. Look how Reina missed a punch against Norwich….cost us two points. We are all human. With whatever rubbish you want to say about a price tag. Get on with it. We bought quality. Let the lad learn and settle before you destroy his confidence. Ynwa!
Coates will improve soon. Give him another 2 or 3 90 minutes games. He can read the game very well and very strong, I wish he’ll replace Carra.
Coates played very well. All defenders make mistakes in all games but he is definitely a good player and saved the match several times. Give him another few matches and he will be top class/
All the negative stuff about our young players being over rated for their price is just a complete load of bollox….. They didn’t set the price. I thought Andy showed some good stuff in recent games he has played. He has shown that he has more to offer and can play on the deck. He needs to play with Suarez or Bellamy to be effective rather than alone. Hendo is going to be an excellent player, just give him time.
MORONS Y DNT YOU UNDERSTAND ZAT HENDO IS MORE AT EASE IN THE AXIAL ROLE. HE IS BEING ASKED TO PLY ON THE RIGHT!!!!
SOMETIMES KUYT ALSO IS NOT GUD ON THE RIGHT, ZEN Y DNT U BLAME HIM??? LEARN TO BE PATIENT U LIVERPOOL DIE HEARTS
YNWA LOVE U ALL
when henderson is asked to play in the middle he drifts over to the wing anyway.maybe he is naturally a winger.
These comments some up liverpool fans. Patience is needed, I don’t recall Ronaldo or Nani settling into the man u team instantly and the same with da silva and nasri. Dare I mention torres at chelsea as well. Coates won young player of copa america beating sanchez and neymar.I get sick of the pressure liverpool fans put on, will get there, henderson is naive but has al the attributes to become world.class, not everyone hits that status at 21
Never known such a negative lfc site. I think this site originates in Salford.
Just give the guy a chance as he is new to this league so people who think that he is just going to adapt to this league so quickly is just wrong. People were giving de gea stick because he was doing errors but he started to adapt and so will coates.
Have you seen the size of this guy he is huge so all the teams would be scared of him.