Date: 11th November 2010 at 9:15am
Written by: asked Liverpool fan, Angelo in Johannesburg, South Africa this morning if he thought last nights game against Wigan was a point won or two points dropped. This was his response:

I think it’s a very lucky point gained. If you watched the 2nd half, we were dominated to the point that we made Maritzburg United look like a EPL team…Wigan were very unfortunate not to collect all 3 points. Yesterday further confirmed that Roy Hodgson has no tactical awareness whatsoever, and I’ll even go as far as to say that the only reason that he is still coach is because he has ‘something’ going on with the owners!

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Where did Roy Hodgson get it wrong?

1. Mierles off for Shelvey….Okay, seriously….Shelvey is colour blind. EVERY single pass he made was to a Wigan player, someone needs to tell him we are the team in red….seriously, he is not up to par. In my eyes there is absolutely no way that guy can redeem himself. We just need to admit our error with this one and donate him to Charlton again….absolutely shocking!!! I don’t care if he is young, if you can’t tell the difference between red and blue you are worthless in my eyes, no matter your age!

2. Kuyt off for Poulsen….FOR FIVE SNAKES!!!!! I want to check this guys ID. There is no ways in hell he is only in his thirties….he HAS to be at LEAST 45. I have seen grand mothers run faster than him. I mean this guy makes EVERYONE around him look like Usain Bolt! Is he carrying weights in his undies that we don’t know about? He needs to be sold and ASAP!!!

3. We had zero ball possession in the 2nd half, Roy Hodgson did NOTHING except put his head in his hands! RH, ITS YOUR JOB TO MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGES….YOUR JOB! DO IT!!! Do you think you get paid all that money to look good on TV and to give interviews? Seriously what the hell is wrong with this guy? Are we watching the same game?

4. Okay, so what is the full extent of Roy Hodgson’s relationship with Maxi? Are they friends with benefits? Seriously, Maxi has been drifting in and out of games, like a Somali pirate, the WHOLE season thus far! Wake up RH! Smell the coffee bud, otherwise it’s going to be a LONG season….

5. We got to give more support to Torres upfront. With Shelvey playing for Wigan and Poulsen making tackles 2 days after the fact, we never saw the ball and thus Torres became even more isolated up top. Where is Jovanovic? Has he become the team mascot?


1. I liked Kelly, think he is STREETS ahead of Johnson. Thought Konchesky had a good game too. Torres is coming back into it as well.

2. We didn’t lose! And the other teams didn’t win, so we didn’t slip up too much.

3. Another indication to the owners that we need numbers in to bolster the side and ASAP, and not in the summer, NOW!! If we wait, we WILL get relegated, mark my words! Do we think that just because we are Liverpool we can’t get relegated? Ask Leeds and Co about that one!

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7 responses to “A point won or two points lost against Wigan?”

  1. Kava says:

    Raul was ill and shouldnt have even started the game, apparently. Such a class player. We missed him badly in the 2nd half.

    I had a “WTF!!!” when I saw Poulsen coming on last night!

  2. Manny says:

    I agree 100% with everything you say Gelo!

    RH is a poor tactician, Shelvey looked pathetic, Poulsen looked slow!

    But that’s why I think we left two points out there; it’s not that Wigan are better than us, RH allowed them to dominate us and it nearly cost us the game!

    Was Raul injured? If not then that substitution for Shelvey has to rate as one of the worst I’ve seen (up there with Rafa taking Torres off last season when we were chasing a game!)

  3. Sam says:

    we were leading at HT, so its 2 points dropped. we now need 20 points from 8 games to be safely within CL spot by the turn of the year.

  4. MoKo says:

    I have to agree on the comments about RH. There was a turning point in the game late into he second half. Wigan pushed hard and we suddenly lost our ability to hold onto the ball. There were times in the second half when i serious thought we looked like a team chasing the game in the last minute. The whole team lost focus on keeping possession and just attacked in an unstructured way. I blame Gerrard and RH for this. We do not need to have 5 pass attacking moves. We needed to take the pace out of the game. The manager has to direct the team to slow it down to take the momentum away for the opposition, especially when u’re playing away.

    I thought the Jonjo sub made no sense. N’zogbia had just moved to the left and we really needed to support Kelly from mid. He was left exposed coz his mid support didn’t know what to do. I admit RH spotted this and moved kuyt to wide right and put Jonjo in the middle. But we needed to control possession in the middle and Jonjo cost us in the middle, which is why he ended up in the hole. pointless substitution!!!!

    He’ll be a good player coz he trusts his feet and has decent vision and plenty atheletisism but he needs to learn a lot before he can be a go-to sub, let alone a starter.

    Poulsen is junk. for those of u who read the article i sent about him being the worst player in serie A can see why now. He might score a brace and be voted worst player in EPL.

    Kelly is the truth. He sees danger early and gets into position to make stops. What i like, which johnson still has to learn is that u don’t always have to tackle, especially high up the field. Just block the runs and wait for the right moment to put ur foot in. Eventually he will be a centre back but playing on the right will help him learn marking the run. He’s one we’ll be talking about for a while.

    My fears that RH is gonna cost us are still swirling. Him. And Masch cost us the Man City game, him and Johnson cost us the Blackpool game and he cost us last night.

    At least the rest of the EPL are playing junk otherwise i’d be really worried. We should be safe for a top 17 place thanks to West Ham, Wolves and another suspect yet to be named.

    Full game analysis to follow

  5. scouse1892 says:

    Now the reason I voted 2 points lost is because going into the game Wigan were there for the taking, with a relegation place and hardly any games won this season we should have taken that into account and stepped up to the mark – these should have been an easy three points but once again we faulter against what should have been an easy team to beat – don’t get me wrong I take nothing away from wigan for the effort but overall I felt we did a lot more sitting deep in the 2nd half (as we did against chelsea but we got away with it there) – I think had we gone at them, at them, at them we should have taken the 3 points comfortably and possibly been in 5th place now. We just need to get this right and I agree fully new signings wont hurt and getting rid of some of the dead wood (namely I’d recommend Johnson, Poulson for a start).

    Tiredness – Now I know I’m hardly playing at premier league level but I myself play footy most nights and if anything I get more and more energy the more I play – how any ‘professional’ can say they are too tired to do their job is beyond me. I’ve been a brickie for 30 years and do it six days a week from 07:30 until 17:30 – sometimes even earlier – usually followed by a kick about at my local field or 7 a side pitch, I’m 45 years old and I’m still not too tired to do my job AND play football. Its ridiculous!

  6. Jay Wright says:

    Shelvey is not a right winger! (neither is Meireles). Shelvey looked like he didn’t have a clue what he was doing out wide, which is what should really be expected from a reserve that has been chucked into a team with no experience of the position. He played a couple of nice passes when he picked up the ball deep in central areas, but Hodgson is just not putting the guy in a position to succeed

    Maxi was as irrelevant as Cole was as irrelevant as Kuyt was as irrelveant as Meireles on the wings. If Babel turned in just one of these performances with the first team, then that would be his last start for the month, but these guys get chance after chance after chance to play themselves into form, with no results to show for it. It’s about time that the “A Team” had to earn their right to remain in the first team instead of continuing to be rewarded with starts for nothing.

    Btw, Hodgson included the Napoli game as a reason for tiredness last night, but most of the regular team were rested for that game, so surely it invalidates his argument right?

    Anyway, I say that it was a point gained as ultimately we were lucky to hold onto the result, rather than being a dominant team that were unfortunate to not get the 3 points.